Awake In The Dark: An interview with Spiritual Coach Jen Gilchrist

[00:00:00] Hi everyone. Welcome back to showing up Whole the place where we discuss balance in mind, body, heart, and spirit in every aspect of your life. Today we’re discussing high sensitivity or highly sensitive people as well as intuition and. Tapping into your divine team. We are talking with Jen Gilchrist, who is an entrepreneur for 22 years and a spiritual mentor.
[00:00:26] For 11 years, Jen has gone from struggling, struggling single mom to growing a multiple six figure business, making money doing what she loves. And empowering others to do the same. She works with highly sensitive and spiritual entrepreneurs on a deep level, helping them to reclaim the confidence, trust, and tools needed to harness their intuition, align with their purpose, and step into their next level of leadership in their business and in their life.
[00:00:54] Hi, Jen. Hello. Thank you so much for having me here. It is great to have you here. It’s funny ’cause just before we hit record, we kind of started talking a little bit about the conversation, what we’re having and there’s just so many different places that we can discuss today. And actually, you know what, actually no, I really want to, um, talk, mention this just little thing because although we are audio.
[00:01:15] Recording. I wanna say that you are surrounded by butterflies. And what’s a perfect introduction to this is just yesterday I kind of said to my own personal team of, you know what, I need a little nudge. I wanna see lots of wings and butterflies, but not on social media. And I was like, let’s see how you show up.
[00:01:33] And then I opened the screen and. No, no, you’re surrounded by all these beautiful butterflies and I just have to say thank you very much. Thank you for working with my team. That’s just brilliant. Bet you love how the divine synchronicity can just unfold itself in such miraculous and awe-inspiring ways, you know, not expecting.
[00:01:49] It’s so fun. Yeah, it’s so much fun. And really that, um, so this, I, I kind of mentioned that, ’cause I think that’s such a great introduction into this kind of conversation of intuition and high sensitivity. So in your own words. What’s a highly sensitive person? It’s somebody who experiences the world, the non-tangible world.
[00:02:08] So whether that’s something that you’re feeling around you, whether you feel it in your body or you get a knowing, but it’s about somebody who gets overstimulated maybe compared to others. I feel like a highly sensitive person’s volume. Of, of feeling into the energy around them or recognizing and, and being aware of energy that’s not tangible is up about 25%.
[00:02:29] And so within that there’s like gifts and burdens that can sometimes follow, depending on how aware you are of the fact that you’re a highly sensitive person. It’s so interesting ’cause really falls into a perception of it, isn’t it? So often in conventional medicine or conventional worlds, uh, that that sensitivity or overstimulation right, becomes such a negative story and it feels like such a burden, but.
[00:02:57] It really is a ta a gateway for your intuition, isn’t it? Absolutely. It really can be your greatest gift with just some simple tools and processes and awareness around it. It really is your greatest gift and I’m, I’m love sharing that with other people so that they can turn, you know, go from feeling overwhelmed into really being tapped into their intuitive gifts.
[00:03:16] You know, when you have that connection, you’re already opened up to the intuitive and. Spiritual world and you may not have ever realized it. And so, you know, I know for me, working with my angels and my intuition has really changed the course of my life in such a positive way, and I love supporting others in that way as well.
[00:03:33] Yeah, absolutely. Well, it really is, it’s, it’s stepping into that space of, of helping people know that that steep sensitivity and. Alright. What, what is your story? I mean, like, let’s, let’s kind of get to know you a little bit better ’cause I’m, I’m curious about how did you go from being highly sensitive to actually seeing this as a tool for your intuition?
[00:03:52] Was it always that way? Were you raised that way? No, definitely not raised that way these days. I like to say my life is a spiritual retreat. And what I mean by that is, what I mean by that is that, you know, massage and Zumba and painting and meditation and journaling, you know, I really. Consider all of that a part of my everyday, of my everyday workday.
[00:04:11] In fact, and you know, for about six years in a row, I had the pleasure of going to swim with hundreds of wild dolphins in Kona, Hawaii on a spiritual retreat for my birthday. And it, I believe it’s this. Balance of divinity and action that sustains my life and really builds my success. And it definitely wasn’t always this way, as you could have guessed, it was not always this aligned and peaceful.
[00:04:34] Uh, by the age of 30, I was on that hamster wheels or society’s version of success, which felt like that never ending hamster wheel of having to do this, you know, wearing all the hats. I was a single mom by the age of 20. I had built a six figure hair business in my twenties as well, doing hair and makeup, uh, specializing in weddings.
[00:04:53] And it’s like you’re wearing all the hats, you’re doing the soccer games, you’re going to work, networking, fulfilling on the clients, you know you’re doing all these things. And I just felt like I was just in this perpetual hamster wheel and overwhelmed like nobody, you know, nobody’s business. And I had no tools at the time to manage this.
[00:05:08] I just kind of thought, this is the way it butts. And so for me, at the time, wine and chocolate was pretty much my way of getting through the end of the day. And about, let’s see, 12 years ago now, my life literally did come to a crashing halt. I had been at a friend’s house, had a couple of glasses of wine celebrating her birthday, which was pretty normal.
[00:05:28] Thing to do and the week, you know, on the weekends. And I ended up driving home and flipping my car and rolling it twice into a ditch. Oh my gosh. It was horrible. And fortunately nobody else was injured in that, but it was a real wake up call for me. It was this point in my life where on the outside everything looked so great.
[00:05:46] You know, I had my business put together. I was voted the, you know, best makeup artist, all these things. And on the inside I was just. In these cycles of unhealthy relationships, I was, I was, you know, kind of tattered and overwhelmed trying to keep up this image, which took more energy, and I was frazzled all the time in my head, and I realized when I had this accident, I couldn’t live that way anymore.
[00:06:07] But I was very afraid, very ashamed, and I didn’t know how to do life differently at that point. I’d never heard of highly sensitive people or empathic ness. You know, I was raised in a pretty conservative Christian upbringing, so we didn’t talk about things like this. Yeah. And um, so I prayed at that time like, I don’t know what to do.
[00:06:23] I just, I want to be happy and at peace. I prayed and in response to that, my dear grandfather came to me in a dream and he woke up something of in me that, that I had not really ever known. It’s like he reminded me that I wasn’t alone. He reminded me that he was there and angels God source, however you, whatever you divine connection is, is there.
[00:06:48] And I wasn’t alone in that. I might have to face all these, you know, bombs going off my life, but that I could do it. And I had support and I woke up. With this sense of peace in, in my heart, it makes me almost tear up every time I share because it’s like I felt this sense of peace in my heart. I’d never felt before and didn’t really even know it was possible.
[00:07:06] And I didn’t have all the answers, but pretty much synchronicity kicked in. And I wouldn’t have had that word for it at the time. But at that moment, it was like I read every self-help book that was out there. I, I mean, the light bulbs just started clicking and my intuition blasted open. I began seeing and hearing angels and, and from there.
[00:07:23] I just begun onto this path of knowing that I wanted to support other people in this way as well. Oh, that’s beautiful. That’s absolutely fantastic. It’s always one thing that I’m always curious about and when it often comes up in these interviews lately, for some reason, is that initial commitment that that crossover period where you go, all right, actually this is what I’m going to believe in.
[00:07:48] It’s something that always fascinates me. What was that like for you? What was the actual thing of crossing over that at that. Space of say, yeah, that was actually my grandfather. Yes. That actually is how I’m going to live my life now. Yes. There is no denying this because it, it’s a process, a different process for everyone.
[00:08:06] Absolutely. And it definitely wasn’t a straightforward journey, I would say, of, you know, in part, I guess to break that down, you know, with my grandparents, it was a feeling like it was, it was like he was a trusted. Person that, I mean, he was my most, my heart, really, my heart and soul and the heart and soul of the family.
[00:08:21] And he passed when I was 10. And so when I, and I never was able to dream of him, and I always wanted to. And so when he came to me, it was very clear to me that it was his energy and it was his feeling, almost like a warm hug that went through my being. So in that moment, at least in that, for that situation, it didn’t matter if anybody else believed me because I felt it in my heart and in my being.
[00:08:39] Mm-hmm. Now. Decided to switch careers and come outta the spiritual closet. No, that’s a whole nother story. So I fiddled in that area doing my own spiritual journey for quite a long time, and I went to my first psychic reading, and I remember I didn’t even know if I believed in psychics at the time. Right.
[00:08:55] And I’m like, okay. My friend suggested it and she told me about. She verbalized how I was feeling more clearly than I could even have done for myself in that moment. And she said, you’re gonna be doing what I’m doing within five years. And I was like, what? This is, that sounds cool, but I’m barely kind of hearing my angels and I’m really not sure what’s happening.
[00:09:14] And uh, she’s like, yeah, and she was correct in four years. My first business, first iteration, I should say, of my spiritual business was Divine Spark within, and it didn’t really take off for quite a while for two reasons. And being in the spiritual closet was one of ’em. I couldn’t imagine how I was supposed to share with my family and my friends about this newly awakened psychic intuitive past life angel card reading, medium ship self, you know?
[00:09:38] I’m like, yeah, let’s just keep that two separate worlds. And because of that, it was keeping me. Hidden and small. And then part two would be my, I had become aware that I was highly sensitive and empathic and I, and I had this petrifying fear of public speaking and, and I knew that, you know, I mean, so much so that I wouldn’t even go to a networking group to share one sentence about my name.
[00:10:01] You know, and so it’s like I realized that these fears were stopping me, and so at a certain point, you know, fast forward about five years, I mean I spent quite a while in these trying to balance these two compartmentalized versions of myself until really the pain and emptiness of me not fulfilling my per purpose got greater than my fear of my parents’ opinion or the fear of their judgment.
[00:10:23] Or my fear of public speaking. And so within that process, I just continued to do a lot of my own healing and I staked my claim and I learned how to step through those visibility fears. And now I love that I didn’t really share with others. Well, and I, I think that’s an interesting, um, an interesting phrase to use of staking your claim because that’s, that’s the thing I think that is, so we live in a very loud world.
[00:10:47] There’s, there’s a lot of head traffic, there’s a lot of things on social media and there’s a lot of influence. And you know, like few years ago it was just about like, you know, our close circles of like, how do we come outta the spiritual closet with our families? But now it seems like it’s, it’s, it’s this.
[00:11:03] Broader scale. Mm-hmm. And it is that actual approaching of staking that claim of actually saying, yes, this is who I am, this is how I stand into myself. And it’s an, it’s a fascinating thing. Do you find that, um, that that was something that you kind of just flowed with, that you could embrace that quickly or actually standing into yourself?
[00:11:27] I think it’s a, even though you didn’t know which way to actually publicly do it, of actually telling yourself. No, this is what I’m doing and this is what I knew. Now, believe. Coming from a Christian background, that can be kind of, it was, yeah, very a battle as well. It was a straightforward, I would say that in my heart I knew, but then I was still, you know, keeping in the closet for quite some time.
[00:11:46] But then there was this point where I felt like that misalignment is how I would say that dissonance and that lack of fulfillment and that, that, that feeling that I was getting further and further and further off my path about what was making me happy. And, but due to trying to please and getting, get other people’s approval, really, and I, when I recognized.
[00:12:03] That, that’s when I really decided, you know, I need to do this. I need to do this. And so I, I ended up at a conference with about 300 other impasses in a room talking about, you know, I’m like, all of a sudden I’m like, okay, stake my claim. And then the funny thing is, this is where you can tell me if this ever happened.
[00:12:17] I end up at a client attraction conference. I’m like, I need clients. Okay. Because I would argue I’m trying, but they’re not coming. And how am I gonna give up my job if I can’t make money? And they’re like, Ugh. So they showed me this concert. So I went there or to this conference, and all of a sudden they start talking about public speaking in order to attract clients.
[00:12:33] And I was like, really? You know, you’ve gotta be kidding. Like, that’s my biggest fear. You, you tricked me, kind of, you know? Or what are you talking about? That’s gotta be way down the road. And they’re like. Well, you know, and I know that that’s when I’m fighting for my fears is when I’m arguing with my angels.
[00:12:48] So I caught myself and I went outside and I did this TLC body meditation, which is something that, you know, I’ve learned to discern the difference. I know that when I listen to my head and my fears, fear will stop me. But when I can get into my heart and into my intuition and really feel through my body that I can feel the truth or I can feel that alignment.
[00:13:08] And I ended up doing this process where I listened to my body and I just thought, you know, what is most aligned for me? Is it just taking this leap of faith, not only financially, at the time it was $22,000 business course to learn. My biggest. Fear. And at the time that was a lot of money. I didn’t have my mortgage money in the bank account that month, and I’m a single parent.
[00:13:27] And so I was like, okay, I gotta go outside here. I already know that I am supported if this is a line for me. But I couldn’t feel my truth because I was in this room with 300 other people who were stressed out trying to make this decision. So I had to get clear what’s my feel? What is the truth for me?
[00:13:41] Is this in line with my higher path? And I felt into it and it was, and so I ended up. Leaping in alignment with my vision, facing my visibility, fears, and signing up for a program that I wasn’t sure how I was gonna pay for, and I wasn’t sure I was gonna show up for, because I knew that if I didn’t, I was only gonna be prolonging my own peace and happiness at the end of the day, and I wasn’t willing to do that anymore.
[00:14:04] Okay. There was a lot of amazing golden nuggets in there and I kind of just wanna dive into those a little tiny bit. Yeah. Because, um, first of all, I think you introduced something that’s really, really vitally important in the sense that people do struggle with knowing whether their intuition is their intuition, if their, it’s their mind chatter.
[00:14:21] Is it fear or is it love? And so that is a. A massive, um, lesson within that of make sure that you listen to your body and listen to your heart. Could you expand on that just a little bit? Yeah, and this is definitely something that, you know, wasn’t my first decision. So this is probably a good six years into my spiritual awakening.
[00:14:40] So, you know, I think you have to cultivate that trust muscle when it comes to mm-hmm. Putting into that for sure. And because I had been cultivating that trust, I was able to make that leap of faith. Now it requires getting out of your head Exactly that. Getting out of your head and into your heart. And so I started working with a simple tool actually, that I teach a lot of my clients and students.
[00:14:59] That’s helpful. And it’s called the TLC Body Meditation. And I like the acronym because it’s easy to remember. Yeah. And self-care is huge. Right. But tc, it stands for Talk to Your Body. So what I would do is I sat outside and I knew that, hey, I need to unmatch from everybody else’s energy in this moment. I need to tune into my body and I need to get clear.
[00:15:19] And this is something that I think is probably the best practice somebody could do, is some form of even five or 10 minutes a day of being quiet. Thyself, right? Mm-hmm. Doing some form of, of presence meditation, because you get to recognize the voice of your own soul that way. Mm-hmm. Right? You get to recognize what’s mine versus everybody else’s.
[00:15:39] Um, either agenda for me or, or the even other people’s fears. Sometimes you can think our own fears is actually our partners or our families. Loving people in our life even can sometimes have their energy in our field and we might take it on as our own. And so what I, first thing I did is I just went outside, I put my feet on the grass.
[00:15:57] I got quiet, I took a breath and I just breathed and I asked, and that’s the first T is talk to your body. You know, well, what is, you know, what is the most aligned path me or you could even use this for? What is this? Is this an, you know, what is this anxiety? Or what is this fear? You know, anything, really talk to your body.
[00:16:13] Ask and just breathe into it so you can get out of that mind and present. And then listen, you know, notice what thoughts or ideas or visions or inklings come to you in that moment, right? We have to quiet and listen, and then we have to see commit. We have to commit to whatever that action is. And so when you practice something like that, you start to have a deeper level of discernment about what’s your energy?
[00:16:36] And what’s somebody else’s. And when you know that, you still might have to feel the fear and do it anyways. I, oh yeah. I had to show up for the speaking, which wasn’t easy, but I felt confident in my decision because I knew it was mine. It wasn’t, yeah, anybody else’s. And so I think, you know, that is really a practice that you have to cultivate.
[00:16:54] And you know, daily meditation is really the, I think, an important piece of that puzzle. Because if we don’t quiet ourselves, we don’t even actually know that we’ve been matching the energy of everyone around us. Yeah. And I think that’s a really other powerful takeaway too of, of knowing that. Hmm. Would you say that that’s deep, um, that happens more often for people who are highly sensitive, that they are picking up all of the different energies from everyone.
[00:17:20] Is that one of the highly sensitive people trademarks, or do you feel that people actually, most people are picking up on energy and they just aren’t aware of it? Well, I think everybody in the world could benefit from these awarenesses, and, and it happens, right? Because we’re all spirits and we’re all bodies.
[00:17:34] Right. Yes. In that way, but I do think that for highly a person, like the shadow aspect or when it’s outta balance or burdening would be something like you can feel uncomfortable in large crowds. Like it’s just, again, the volume’s up 25% louder. You might feel drained after talking with someone and think, I was in a great mood and now I had this luncheon.
[00:17:53] I’m feeling like super anxious or drained. Or you might tend to be an over giver giving more than you’re receiving. You might avoid. Confrontation, get more easily frazzled or overwhelmed and probably need more reflective time. And so most of us, we’re not set up in a world that honors often to do that.
[00:18:10] And so what happens is, as a highly sensitive or empathic person that doesn’t have this awareness, which. Most of us aren’t taught in school, right. We don’t learn this at a young age. At least be good, you know? Yeah. Um, you know, you don’t realize that. And so it’s just about how can I keep pushing and getting through the day and we slowly but surely continue to disconnect from our body actually.
[00:18:31] Yeah. And we keep going until we hit a burnout. For me, it was drinking, it was an accident. For others, it might be a health crisis, it could be a divorce. I mean, any number of misalignments could lead you to this dark night of the soul. Kind of. I change something in my life moment, but. Generally will come when you look back at, it can be a level of really disconnecting from ourselves.
[00:18:50] And because of our high sensitivity, like the public speaking in large part, was that I didn’t know it. I could feel people’s judgements. I would leave my body, get frozen like a deer in headlights, feel like an idiot, get into my head, didn’t wanna do it right. And so, but I didn’t know that. So I just thought I was shy.
[00:19:07] And so when you start to recognize that and then you can just put some simple tools in place, like, you know, to me you would take a shower every day, you gotta take an energetic shower. It becomes essential for a highly sensitive person. Whereas a person that’s not quite as prone to being over, you know, overstimulated or confused by the energy around them of others, or social media or whatever.
[00:19:30] Yep. You. You when you, if you don’t take the time to ground and just really learn to flush your energy and connect with your body, your spirit, because that’s what your intuition is. Your intuition is pretty, that communication between your spirit, your human self, and your body, right? And so that is, uh, and then of course your spirit team if you want to go up that ladder.
[00:19:51] But at the end of the day, when we’re a clear channel. Your intuition’s already on tap gonna be more connected than a lot of people because you’re already there. Absolutely. You have to clear out the chatter, and that’s the biggest key is grounding and being able to be present in your body instead of disconnecting and avoiding it because you are overwhelmed.
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[00:21:45] Check out my website, it’s spiritually aware living.com today, and make sure you sign up for my weekly scroll newsletter for all current information. And it’s so interesting kind of returning back to the story too about, you know, you making those decisions. I love how you mentioned that if you aren’t following your soul’s path and you’re not listening to those intuitions, then you’re not gonna be following into your happiness anyway.
[00:22:10] It’s so interesting how we think that, you know, oh, well, turning that off. Oh, well maybe I, I’ll just keep the safe choices. You can’t actually fulfill. You can’t. It’s, it’s not gonna work out. Yeah. Eventually we end up filling our soul and people do it all the time for money or for whatever, you know, and there was a period of time that I didn’t even realize I was doing that.
[00:22:28] But this is where you can start to hone into is this decision based in fear or love. And so when we’re trying to make a decision, I think you kind of asked this earlier too, is asking yourself that question, you know, well, why, you know, I usually like to start with a question of like, well, is this aligned for my higher path and purpose?
[00:22:42] Like what is most aligned? Right? And then just start there. Might be a little triggered, but then we can go, okay, well, you know, if are my reasons for yes or no based in fear or love, like with what is it? It starts to become more clear and then we know exactly the inner work that needs to be done. We know that we have a choice, and it might not happen immediately or every time, but you will get further and like it’ll start as a whisper and then eventually be like a bang or a loud or, you know, you can only go so far out of alignment before you.
[00:23:12] Kind of create a forced course correction like an accident. And so the first time’s usually the most intense, but we start to get easier at, you know, what I’ve learned is the more tools and awareness I have around this, and the more that I now know if I act against myself, it’s gonna come back to me and eventually anyways, that, um, I end up kind of like going through rolling hills instead of these highs and lows that would derail me for months or years at a time.
[00:23:37] I could navigate life a bit more easier when you catch it at a whisper. Right when you catch it out. Absolutely. And know that just takes usually one big bang, bang up in your life to recognize, you know, and then we, and then we kind of chuck along. I think at one point I thought, oh my gosh, I’ve reached nirvana.
[00:23:53] It’s all on the tie now. I’m so excited. And then I hit my next bit of stretching through my comfort zone because you’re, you’re your purpose, your miracles, your joy, your, all of that is gonna be on the other side of your comfort zone. Yeah, at some point. And so you have to learn how to navigate and feel that fear and move through it anyways, or you’re just gonna stay stuck and miserable.
[00:24:13] And then that’s where the addictions come in for a lot of sensitives is because there is a level of how can I continue to disconnect from myself more and more in order to dug, dig my, you know, nails into the carpet and hold myself in position. And at a certain point it just gets to be too much and you end up.
[00:24:30] Moving forward anyways. That makes sense. You know? Yeah, absolute. Absolutely. But I like to say too, the positive aspects, like once I embrace my sensitivities, I learned that, you know, we all have big hearts. We’re compassionate, we’re extremely intuitive. We love heal, you know, being in healing industry, supporting others.
[00:24:45] People trust us, you know, and so there’s so much beautiful things that when we just, you know, embrace who we are and all of those gifts, they really can work for us and not against us. Right. Absolutely. Absolutely. And I think I, I really appreciate the fact that you mentioned that, you know, you do reach those parts.
[00:25:03] You’re like, oh, this is it. I figured this out. I, I, you know, I remember times in my life where I’m like, okay, I don’t know universe what you’re gonna hand next. ’cause this is, figure it out. And then immediately it’s just like, and okay, and there it is. What’s next? And it is, it’s that ever expanding.
[00:25:22] Ever-growing flow that is always moving you forward. And you know, as spirits, we just love to grow and move and play and there’s some hiccups for this human life when those come in. Yeah. And the thing is though, you know, and to me, I think my spiritual business was like the whole was a even deeper level spiritual growth in a lot of ways because it forces you to really sink into trusting yourself, believing in yourself.
[00:25:46] When other people may not have belief in you, you know, you know, a lot of times we’re the only entrepreneurs, you know, at least in my family, you might be the only entrepreneur you know in your family. And so people go, well, what about the 401k? You know, stick it nice people are used to kind of doing the status quo.
[00:26:00] And you might be here, most likely if you’re in, in a podcast like this, here to, you know, shake things up, to break down the norms and to change patterns and to. To be a little different. And I think that as a sensitive person, that can be scary because you can feel that fear of not being accepted or feeling judged even by those you love.
[00:26:19] And so we will try to contort ourself to please everybody. And then eventually we realize we can’t do that and we please no one. And that’s when I think we actually can inspire not only ourselves, but other people around us when we just give ourselves permission to be un. Unapologetically and authentically yourself, everyone absolutely.
[00:26:38] Gonna work itself out, right? Absolutely. Outta curiosity. Do you find that generally people who are. Highly sensitive, deeply empathic and intuitive come from families who aren’t. Yeah, I would say a lot. I would say we tend to bite off a lot. I think we come into this lifetime going, oh yeah, no problem.
[00:26:58] ’cause most of us are old souls, you know? I don’t know. Yeah. Past lives I, but I do. So it’s kind. Yeah. A hundred percent coming through. And it’s like, and you’re like, okay, I got this. You get in here, you’re like, oh my gosh, I forgot how, how intense this is. But we usually do bite off quite a bit because a lot of us are here to be making some kind of help.
[00:27:13] Service change in the world. We’re here, you know, to do these things and so sometimes we bite off a lot in the beginning part of our life, but it’s, but it’s amazing because now we can use our stories to inspire and to support others. I think that’s what many of us ultimately came here to do in that process.
[00:27:31] And so yes, we take to have those patterns then. It, it did. It really just, it is this fascinating pattern where people kind of come in and it, the contrast is very real, very real. And it’s like, and it’s really interesting with that reality check of that contrast, there is that state of needing that decision of saying, actually, I am going to listen to this.
[00:27:53] I am going to trust. This. And I, I like the fact that you mentioned that, you know, it takes a while to build up that trust muscle. Don’t worry if you don’t have that in place right away. It is a question of, you know, I know early on in, in, in my kind of playfulness, it was always like, okay, you know what?
[00:28:08] I’m just gonna trust you. I will follow your lead. Tell me which way to go. And it’s like, oh, turn left. Okay, I’ll turn left. Oh look, that was a nice little stand. Thank you. I appreciate that. Like it was just kind of that kind of steady playful, I’m not gonna see this as a big deal and I’ll just. Build that and, and it’s, it’s fascinating when you do build that relationship with your team.
[00:28:28] Yes. And I love that you said that because that’s exactly what I recommend as well, and I still do. Right? That’s how we build that muscle is through the daily things and the little things and some, and that way when you have a big decision where you have something that’s scary or really outside of your comfort zone, like in my case, taking that big leap of faith and investment, it.
[00:28:47] You have built the muscle already. Yeah. And it’s really, the angels and guides will always say there’s nothing too big or small. Don’t feel like you’re taking away from somebody else. Ask us in the day-to-day little things, what’s the fastest direction to get to? Yeah. My route or what would be most healthy food to eat?
[00:29:01] Like really just play with that because that is how you build that muscle. And then guess what? Your whole days always goes smooth with a lot of miracles. Yeah, exactly. Well, and it’s funny because, I mean like even when we came on and it’s like, oh, there’s those wings, so that how you playfully decided to plant that in, well done, well done.
[00:29:17] You know, like you kind of, it’s, it just kind of means that your life takes on this expanded view, doesn’t it? Where it’s just. E everything has extra color. Yeah. You know, it’s, it’s almost like going from, there’s that movie years ago Pleasantville, where they went from a black and white world and then they added color, and it’s all of a sudden you’re living in an expanded version of life when you are acknowledging the things that you can’t see and working with your highest vision of yourself.
[00:29:44] Absolutely. Yes. I, yeah, that’s, that’s really, really it. It’s, it’s always so exciting to dive into and explore. Out of curiosity. Um. When you see your spiritual team and you work with your angels, do you work with anyone in particularly, or is it ancestral? I mean, there’s a lot of different ways and it’s always so interesting, isn’t it?
[00:30:03] Because people will say, well, what is exactly is your spirit team? And there’s spirit team, there’s ancestors, there’s your angels, there’s just working with source with God with. What do you work? I work with them all, you know. Oh, I like it. But here’s the thing, I love it. In the beginning, the archangels were really what felt home to me, like there was a comfortable presence for me with, uh, that I had a kinship, a kindred familiarity, I would say with the archangel realm.
[00:30:28] And so for me, my grand, my for. Father, the grandfather, and then the archangel realm really was what came through. And then since then, I think as you go along in your path, they all have different types of personalities and different, different, different, uh, just like, you know, a toolbox, right? Sometimes you need a Phillips screwdriver, sometimes you want a flathead.
[00:30:45] Right. Exactly. You know, there’s all these different tools and so, yeah. And I mean that with much respect Spirit team. Oh yeah. Right. They all have different energy frequencies and different Yeah, absolutely. Personalities that are funny and fun. And so I think like different periods of time, depending on what I’m doing, I’ve gotten to know them and so I’ll know who to call for the job, you know, in a sense, if I need a little encouragement or if I need to, you know, Archangel Michael’s great to booster your confidence and release fear and then you’ve got Shael who’s so full of peace in your, you know, if you need to feel that.
[00:31:15] Calm and groundedness. And so I think just, you know, experimenting with who you’re comfortable with. But one thing I also noticed with like, uh, when I did one-on-one work was sometimes, you know, for instance, mother Mary might come through or healing I was doing. And it’s like, oh, and it would be, ’cause the person that I’m working with might have a kinship with Mother Mary, and then the next one might be Qua Yen when they have very similar energy.
[00:31:39] But it depends on who you feel. Connected with, right. It might be the ancestors, it might be the fairies, it might be, who knows? Yeah. The angel. Yeah. Well, and it, it’s important to remember, I mean, a lot of people listening to this might be like, well, what does that mean that you feel different? Ones, it, it’s the same as with people.
[00:31:57] When you walk into a room, you sense people’s frequency, you know, half the time, who’s the person behind you? It’s a question of, you know, you, if someone walks into the room and they’re, you’re not facing them, you can usually tell just based on their energy, their frequency, and it’s the same thing. They’ll often just tell you who’s in the room.
[00:32:15] So practice, I like to just practice playing with that muscle. You know, choose one or two. Yeah. That if you feel confident with and, and play with that particular archangel or spirit guide for a period of time until you recognize that frequency. And then lots of times when I notice is when we venture onto a new chapter, a new one will come in and we start to recognize, oh wait, that’s when in the contrast you start to recognize.
[00:32:36] Oh, first it’s just, oh, that’s an angel. And now it’s like, oh, it’s this angel. But that just comes with discernment and practice. Yeah. What do you tell people who are feeling kind of scared of this kind of thing? Well, I understand because that’s actually, it’s interesting that I was thinking that when you asked me about who I was coming with, because my grandparents, you know, I, I think when I, just as I was.
[00:32:56] A little bit. I felt awake in the dark when I first had my awakening. I was so excited. I would get in my car, I’d put my Celtic CD on, and I would sing, and I’d feel my grandpa and my aunt and my, my, uh, grandmother. And we would just have this beautiful divine like drive to work every day and nobody knew.
[00:33:13] And it was this special place that I felt very safe and very excited about. And then very quickly I became aware of. More heavier, darker, looming kind of energy or just people’s anxiety, you know, all of a sudden it became, I wasn’t disconnecting from my body is what it is. So I started recognizing when other people were feeling energy or other lower vibrations, and I’m like, what is that?
[00:33:34] Right? So I felt awake in the dark all of a sudden. And so that was when I did kind of pull back a little bit and go, huh. And that’s when I really realized I needed to learn some meditation tools. I needed to mm-hmm. Learn some tools so that I felt comfortable and confident that, hey, just, you know, I have the body, I have the power.
[00:33:52] I know that I don’t have to, you know, I can be aware of these energies, but I don’t have to be afraid of them. And they don’t, and I don’t only have to work with who I wanna work with. And so I started building that muscle of. Of that discernment, but then also of realizing that with simple spiritual tools, you can always just choose to connect with the light.
[00:34:10] Like Archangel Michael was a go-to for me in the beginning, um, to just, you know, what, if I felt something that I wasn’t sure about or didn’t feel comfortable, it’s, I’d just call him and it’s like, oh. Archangel Michaels caught my back and, you know, release anything that’s not of the highest good for me.
[00:34:23] And I started to build that, that muscle there. And so for me, I understand it, how it can feel to be awake in the dark, aware, but not aware of exactly who or what or how to deal with energy. And so to me it just became well. This is part of who I am. You know, I can’t turn that off, so I better just kind of get with the program and learn about how to cultivate this for myself.
[00:34:46] And when I did that, now I’ve never looked back, you know? Yeah. Well and it is that empowered decision of saying, actually, no, I don’t wanna work with that energy. Yeah, no, I don’t. You know it. And I, yes, Archangel Michael and I are, go far back. It’s amazing. It’s like, you know what, can you just sort that one out?
[00:35:03] What is that? And it is a question of. Acknowledging, well, there’s a sense of empowerment is in there. Yeah. Where you have to claim your own self, love yourself enough, and trust yourself enough to say. That I’m not letting that in and I’m raising myself up to being open to different frequencies. And the thing is, how about, it’s not like they weren’t there.
[00:35:24] It’s not like they weren’t always there. It’s just now you’re aware of it. So usually whether you’re feeling your own fear or block or doubt within your own body and your own field that you’re now. Called to release or heal at the next level, or you’re recognizing an energy outside of you that’s affecting you, right?
[00:35:37] Because all of our family and friends and coworkers, they all got people hanging on in agreements, hanging on with them too, you know? So it’s like all of a sudden you’re just more aware of what’s already been there. So I love, I just wanna kind of reiterate that just more about, yeah, claiming the power that.
[00:35:51] You don’t, that you get to be the one to choose. You get to be the one to choose, right? And that does mean that you will not accidentally let dark energies in. ’cause often that is something that people say, yeah, but what if I let, let something in that I don’t wanna let in? Or what if I open the door? And there’s, there’s a lot of fear that people can sometimes pick up on that of being like, what does that mean?
[00:36:14] And that’s to me where I would say they only can have, they can have their way with you when you’re unconscious to it. And that’s usually when they can do it, right? So once you become aware of it, they can, they’ve lost their power. Now they might poke on, you know, a little bit of like fun or, or or whatever on your fear, but only if you have that fear.
[00:36:31] And so that’s where, you know, if you don’t have that confidence within yourself yet to just. Connect with the light and just, you know, raise that energy around you. Archangel Michael’s a really great, a great tool, you know, person to kind of have is in your toolbox, if I should say, and I say that with love, but you know what I’m saying?
[00:36:45] Yeah. Hell yeah. Michael, pull forward and ask him to help you out, but then you’ll build that confidence that you can do it too. And it, and it’s really is as soon as you’re aware, well then there is they, they’ve lost the power. There’s no, yeah, I love that. Yeah, absolutely. And you’ll be in a frequency state where they can’t, you know, that lower frequencies can’t match.
[00:37:04] It’s a radio station. Right. I would say that, that when you first wake up, it can feel a little bit worse before it gets better sometimes, because you go from unaware. To aware and you still yet have the vibration that you’re in because you haven’t shifted it. So that first little bit of time can feel a little bit like it gets worse before it gets better, but it really is that first step of being aware of what’s already there.
[00:37:24] Now you know what you’re dealing with, just kind of like debt. You can’t put your head in the sand. You can’t change anything if your head’s in the sand and you don’t know as soon as you know, okay, now it’s like, man, I got this to deal with, but now at least I can make a plan and I know what to do and I can Yeah, shift the energy.
[00:37:36] Uh, yeah. But it does get easier. It does get much easier. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. I think that probably this would be a really good time to tell people about your free offering because I’m sure a lot of people are going, yeah, but how do you actually really become aware and how do you actually get started?
[00:37:51] So it seems kind of just naturally unfolded into that. So can you just explain what that is? Yes, I love that. How that always. Out. Right. It always does. Yeah. So I have a, a really powerful four day masterclass series that’s completely free and I get to go into the first day. One is all about how to connect with your spirit team.
[00:38:12] We do, you know, each day is a full 90 minutes of. Content and audio, video activation or meditation journey. So I’m teaching you tools that you can continue to use in your life right then and there, and then some and activities that you can also start to implement right away. And so each day, the first one is really talking with your angels, your spirit time team, and.
[00:38:33] We actually introduce you to two archangels you can start working with, uh, which is really powerful. And then day two, we talk a lot more about high sensitivity and being an empath and how to activate your own healing energy and a healing tool to flush out and to energetically clear out other people’s energy and just raise your overall vibration.
[00:38:50] Um, and then we have day three where we talk a bit more about clairvoyance. And this is a one that typically, especially if you have a religious upbringing, can trigger, you know, ah, is this okay? Safe or do I trust myself or what are the doubts that come up? And we do a lot of clearing on the fears and doubts and like activate that input of awareness.
[00:39:08] And then we have day four where we talk a bit more about, about channeling, which is also about sometimes a block to speaking truth can be in there. Mm-hmm. So we talk about the gift and the shadow and different aspects and each, each day we have some tools you can practice to get better at cultivating that muscle.
[00:39:23] And then some healing and activations that will. For you as well as in some fun bonuses I won’t go into. So that’ll be the surprise for people. Fantastic. That sounds amazing. Okay, I’m gonna post the link, which you’ll be sharing, but do you know it audio? Like can you just tell us? Well, it’s a little, it’s called Soul.
[00:39:39] If you go to soul success unleashed.com on that homepage, you’ll see masterclass series and that’s brilliant. You want to click right there because you are okay? Mm-hmm. All right. And we’ll definitely post the link in here. This as well. So by all means, definitely. That’s fantastic. That is such a generous, free offering.
[00:39:56] I can, that’s brilliant. Thank you so much for offering that to everyone. That’s amazing. You’re so welcome. I love it. Yeah, that sounds, yeah. Well, and it’s, it’s a beautiful build. ’cause it really does start off with that sense, those simple, building that trust, creating that deep connection, and then allowing it to just build and build and build into that deeper knowing.
[00:40:15] Amazing. And then also on your website, they will find out your services. So what do you offer for people? How do you work with people? I have a variety of ways to work with people. I do teach, like I have a class completely around helping you to have energetic tools for highly sensitive people. So meditation practice and simple energy tools are six tools that I use in a process that you can do just even 10 minutes a day to help you build up your energy resiliency and clear out other energies and just.
[00:40:39] Can have that build that strong connection with yourself. And then I have a deeper level prob program called Soul Success Unleashed, which is a three month group program that’s highly transformational, where we go in and it’s like got three facets. This is where like, I wanna really develop my intuition.
[00:40:53] So we do give a skillset to learn how to read energy, read auras, uh, past lives, all kinds of things. And then you also are high level of, of healing, right? To me it’s an amplified. Ascension journey because we are clearing all those fears and doubts, and I’m there supporting the group each step of the way every week with q and a calls and running energy, and it’s just a really powerful, powerful process.
[00:41:15] Mm-hmm. That’s amazing. That sounds fantastic. All right. And all of that’s on your website? Can go website? Jack. Amazing. Fantastic. Thank you so much for this wonderful conversation. It’s been so much fun. Thank you so much, much too. I appreciate the work you’re doing in the world. I know it’s so important as people are awakening more than ever before and having people like you that are willing to, you know, connect with people like me and put this out there to empower them is amazing.
[00:41:38] And I appreciate everything you’re doing. Thank you so much for coming on and sharing. Mm-hmm. Love and light. Bye. Bye.